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We have numerous pastries with fillings going from cheese to spinach (like the Greeks, yes!) History has shown us this. As time went by, things started to change a little. Now it's obsessed with 'poverty' (can't afford food but can fags and false nails) and banal debates about identity. As a Brit who has lived abroad for 10 years (in Germany), I always said that I could not really see myself going back to live there permanently for similar reasons. I'm not surprised at all that you're leaving the UK! I'm really sorry as a Brit that you had negative experiences of racism, especially as someone who clearly learnt the language and integrated into the country. A socialist government will. I don't know, Si. Enjoy your sovereignty, Mark. I thought it had to do with me but the more I got to know more locals and foreigners like myself, the more I realised that was just the way life in London was. [35], In the "New Earth" episode of the BBC TV series Doctor Who, the character Lady Cassandra is transplanted into Rose Tyler's body (Billie Piper). Sadly, children and teens are already seeing England and the English for what they really are, and so to the rest of the world. Great post other than the politics! If Britain has one problem is that it strives to be so much more than it should. Such an insightful piece of writing! But there's always hope. Countries like Japan are very friendly to tourists, but they would never let foreigners rise to a high level in politics or business. [7] This interpretation of the word was used in a 2012 public statement by rapper Plan B as he spoke out to oppose the use of the term.[13]. But that's ok, I was never afraid of hard work and long hours of study. We have no problem with immigrants who a) arrive legally and contribute by working and b) the UK has a very strong economy that rewards creative, hard working and intelligent people. In the 90's we managed to claw that back from the fascists and say as a society this is not who we are. May I wish you both all the very best with your trip. Thank you for your message. Anyway, good luck How on earth can you say the roads in the Uk are well maintained????? I was in Madeira when I saw the results for Brexit. The Brits also call themselves "expats" and not immigrants. Yes, Australia is far higher cost of living, but the living standards and quality of life is also much higher. Maybe we'll move back one day, but for now, I'm happier to watch what happens from the sidelines. However it was one of the most dissapointing moves in my life. But we live to achieve in the UK, not to enjoy good food and wine. Ive come across your blog and found it heartbreaking that youve been made to feel this way in great Britain. There are so many digital nomad jobs so you don't need to live in London anymore. It's not true about the weather at all! I do agree that Brexit is a good thing because it will force Europe to grow and be better in business and improve their own cities and cooperation without a tick such as England. I understand totally. All the best and happy travels to you too. We are the first of the G7 countries to require zero CO2 emission by law. To sum up England used to be a nice place ,,,,so I moved back !! Food for thought! Although, sometimes, we do miss having a good old pint with our mates :). I am from Hungary and been living in the UK for 13 years. 1860. Good luck with your move. It is dangerous to assume that all British people are racists. Ridiculously so in comparison to other countries, and that is the problem. [3] In Canada, in the province of British Columbia they're known as "Surrey jacks". You can't compare Lisbon to London of course. It.has been sad to see the decline of the uk. You honestly think Scotland is the best thing about the UK? The great educated gentleman is obsolete and the fine lady is on a verge of collapse. How is that even logically possible when the UK simply doesn't GROW resources needed for their population to sustain itself? I also witnessed a significant rise in social tension, not to mention all the things you refer to, such as, very poor housing, extortionate prices and a general lowering living standards across the board. Im glad you are happy in North Yorkshire, its a lovely part of the country. -Privacy rights- Non existent in reality. It is the uneducated and those who do not travel and learn about other cultures that may harbour racism. Portugal is fantastic, and Morocco and Albania? The average British student doesn't study anything but marketing, business administration, management! Yes, it's possible to "get on with it" but what's the point living if you're surrounded with unkind and cruel people? Just because the UK was unable to tighten the system in regards to NHS and benefits access. " Chav " ( / tv / ), also " charver ", " scally " and " roadman " in parts of England, is a British term, usually used in a pejorative way. I personally think that is more noble. As a former UK resident, I understand your position. I love how you touched on just how expensive it is to travel in the UK too, especially by train (not that they ever run on schedule anyways!). Britain is awful for people born British too x. Whilst I agree with 90% of this article I dont believe that the.majority of people in Britain are racist. This is a wonderful piece. Every time mum came to visit, she always said how much she loves shopping for food in the UK. Being British born myself I have seen how Britain has changed for the worst over the last decade or so and am now trying to convince my husband for us to move abroad somewhere where we can have hotter weather, more reasonable housing and public transport costs, a salary which accurately reflects the amount of work and education that goes into your job and an overall better lifestyle. In 2013 linguist David Crystal said on BBC Learning English: People talk about "chav behaviour" or "chav insults" and that sort of thing. Why dont you go and live there then? This is what British society has lost. I live in an EU country. I'm sure you will find your (almost) perfect city/country! I'm British. The irony of this situation is that in your misguided attempt to Make England Great Again, you've torpedoed much of the foundation of the UK's current wealth. The thing is all the time that was just beneath the surface. Unfortunately there are a lot of uncultured and racist people in the UK, its so disappointing. Right after Norway and Switzerland. The Brown Bunny star clearly didn . But as I say it never really went away it was always there. The UK welcomed 625,000 immigrants to the last year, even after Brexit, and more than any other EU nation. Then millions on renegotiating deals with countries who don't need the UK. I am stuck with sole British citizenship now and trying hard to get out of here. No country is perfect, but if you consider our history, museums, NHS, free education and world-class universities, the honesty of our police force and courts, business opportunities, freedom of speech, music, religious diversity, food safety (a huge problem in Asia by the way), countryside, regulation, animal rights, gender equality, gay rights, time zone, infrastructure, I still contend the UK is one of the best countries to live in the world. So travel around the UK doesn't come cheap. Try to own more than one property in many countries and you will really feel the heat from the taxman. I'm telling him constantly how much I'd rather live somewhere else in Europe (somewhere cheaper, because yahh, it's way too expensive here) and somewhere where we could simply have a better quality of life. God help us. [31] The BBC comedy series Little Britain features the character Vicky Pollard (portrayed by Matt Lucas), a parody of a teenage female chav. As a Labour supporter with some Lib Dem views, I cannot reason with the Brexit idea no matter what. And since the article is not about this, I'm going to refrain from further comments. No country or culture is perfect of course, but we always have to ask ourselves what we're willing to put up with and sometimes it's not worth it. You can't compare the average salary with the average rent in a normal or even expensive area. Having moved into a city I realise reading your article that I have started to be ground down by the same things that have bothered you and your husband. I wrote an article about a similar topic a month ago. It has changed from a land of invention and innovation to that of bloated consumer. I want to thank you from all my heart that you took the time to tell us we are welcome. The term floated about beforehand, but in the 2000s it was on steroids. Furthermore, I respect the people who in my mind, made Britain awesome (Like Mick Jagger, David Attenborough or Maggie Smith). When employers can hire Eastern Europeans who will turn up on time, not call in sick with hangovers and work hard then who can blame them? But that does not justify mass immigration, and I say mass immigration because I am in favour of short immigration of few people and more controlled. The main reason is that I see the EU as being an impossible project, led by weak consensus politicians with no grand vision for economic growth. Stop running it down, we didn't ask you to come here and complain about everything. The opportunity to be free and to express freedom of thought is still prevalent in this country that he now lives in, albeit in his matchbox house. View history. Compared to Italy, Germany and most other EU countries schools and universities are really easy, not in depth and way too expensive for the quality they offer. Great post. Unfortunately despite all the UKs flaws he's reluctant to leave the UK and I myself am finding it hard to pin point the perfect location to move to. Why? Too much traffic, too much alcohol and too much rain. And frightening. But please know that you and your husband are welcome, you are safe, and if our government ever decides to sort themselves out and stop being absolute tools, I hope you come back some day :) But in the meantime have an absolute blast in Portugal, Hungary and wherever else the wind takes you! That's a lot, isn't it? to fruit to chocolate. There are so many rolling hills, empty, kept for a handful of sheep. Germany had low morale and wanted a change in 1940's which allowed Hitler to come to power who blamed, you guessed it, Jews for all of Deutschland's problems. As a writer, I thrived during rainy days as melancholia hit. I would love to visit Prague and although I know many digital nomads pick this city to live in, I believe it's not exactly what I have in mind. And before you jump to my neck, I am a young professional with a business, whereby I, in theory at least, should benefit from conservative promises the most. I've been back 18 months and I can see these issues, without any dogma of ideology. My god the atmosphere was one of the strangest I had ever felt after that. The one that had the vote or the ones that didnt get the chance? There is so much wrong with it I wouldn't know where to begin in pointing out the almost endless flaws. I believe it is a feature of geography. But hey, thanks for stopping by to say hi. In Germany I have never felt discriminated against as a foreigner. A Labour Government faces the same problems - and honestly will be no different as there is no money to splurge like the Noughties! The continuous media obsession of crisis after crisis perpetuates the problem. Don't confuse friendliness with openness. I find this so interesting because I would have never expected to learn these things about Canada. I think he'd be interested in staying if Scotland becomes independent. Perhaps because they carry England as it is remembered, not as it is. [11], It has also been suggested that the term is derived from the name of the town of Chatham, in Kent, but the Oxford English Dictionary thinks this is "probably a later rationalization". I'm excited for something new and a place that's easier to travel solo in. 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A controlled immigration Program. And you know what? Hey! There is more hope for a limpet sucking the tits off the sun than the UK you fell in love with as a boy returns . I do feel that we have so much potential and we could learn so much from one another. When you get ill on your travels, take a British penicillin. I always strive to do better. Thank you so much for writing this. [23] Some argue that it amounts to simple snobbery and elitism. Australia has its problems but at least its normal there. I have been unable to find work in my field because they don't know what to do with my qualifications ('You need a UK qualification'), and the algorithm ber-usage in this country is insane. But its like I've always maintained since the vote happened is that lots of people voted Brexit for many complex reasons. If there has been racist attempts, they were not obvious. Hi Cory, I found your blog after the comment you left on my post about the struggles of living in England this post sums up so many of my feelings about the UK and how difficult it can be to live here as an immigrant. Being born in Europe and now a British national, I also chose to move away from the UK. What a disgusting attitude. Youve shown me that there is hope. something changed. White Europeans cannot understand racism, and ought to go figure on their home countries. Your candour proves me wrong about you racist, poor, thick bits. If this article baffles you then install some baffle plates mate! I have come to realise that home is where the heart is, and it really does not matter where one lives if they are happy there. You see, all these were just normal things in the UK. Walnut honey cakes. You chose to live in Manchester one of the wettest and coldest parts of the UK - and yet most of Europe is colder than Manchester for most of the year. Did I? 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